Thanks snapper - some real nice people and a ton of good info.
looks like I have good deal of digging ahead of me.
A for Sturgis dealers have a ton of cheap crap and a few with
selling nice but way over priced like MT Greg Lightfoot for $650 and cheap IT & MX going for
100-200 crazy. I have a brother in-law one town over every year the same bunch meet up.
A few of the high rollers bring a odds and ends to sell off. I never liked the Paragon (no clip) but my girl loves it.
Thank you again for the kind words - you take care.

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