Here's 2 that Herb Derr did.I became very friendly with Herb they day I met him and saw his knives. He sure is a Gentleman, a very talented one too!! He did the Rams horn sub hilt for me first. It is the first Subhilt Herb has ever done. He Mortised the Rams horn around the tang leaving the natural beauty of the Rams horn Character exactly as I requested!! Then he did the stag one for me. I'm quite happy with the results!!